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Old 07-13-2011, 08:54 PM   #1
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I have recently seen lots of commercials for catheters. The ads usually say "Don't use dirty catheters!". Can someone tell me why people use them? What condition requires someone to need them?

(I almost feel stupid for asking, but I just don't know)
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:02 PM   #2
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Urinary problems - here's a link that explains those commercials

http://www.marketmisfit.com/heres-wh...s-commercials/

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Catheters are meant to be disposed of, like diapers, dental floss and old batteries. You’re not supposed to re-use them. But Medicare policy-makers only rationed for the expense of 6 disposable catheters per week for patients. Considering many patients cath somewhere between 2-6 times per day, you can begin to see the problem…
Catheters are usually wrapped in sterile, individual packages and marked for “one time use”. Medicare, in an effort to save money, told folks it was OK to re-use this one-time medical product by boiling them and re-inserting them. Yeah, gross, I know. But, by doing so, money and resources are presumably saved… or are they?
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:21 PM   #3
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Thanks, still. That answered that!
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Catheters are usually wrapped in sterile, individual packages and marked for “one time use”. Medicare, in an effort to save money, told folks it was OK to re-use this one-time medical product by boiling them and re-inserting them. Yeah, gross, I know. But, by doing so, money and resources are presumably saved… or are they?
1) Boiling, even boiling for several hours, may not kill some species of germs.
2) A dead germ can still cause a reaction very similar to a low concentration of a live germ.
3) No home can even approach the cleanliness of the facilities where catheters are made, packaged, and sterilized.
I know these things. Its very similar to how I earn my living.

Re-use of catheters is seriously unwise. I wonder how many people end up in the hospital with an infection that could have been prevented by using only new catheters.
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1) Boiling, even boiling for several hours, may not kill some species of germs.
2) A dead germ can still cause a reaction very similar to a low concentration of a live germ.
3) No home can even approach the cleanliness of the facilities where catheters are made, packaged, and sterilized.
I know these things. Its very similar to how I earn my living.

Re-use of catheters is seriously unwise. I wonder how many people end up in the hospital with an infection that could have been prevented by using only new catheters.
Unfortunately this is why they were doing that:

But Medicare policy-makers only rationed for the expense of 6 disposable catheters per week for patients. Considering many patients cath somewhere between 2-6 times per day, you can begin to see the problem…
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Thanks marz- I have been thinking about making this same thread!
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:31 PM   #7
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I still wanna know what medical conditions other than spinal paralysis would cause you to have to use a catheter. Those commercials are on all day.
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The only one I know is enlarged prostate. I think they are also used after prostate surgery. And after treatment for bladder cancer.
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I still wanna know what medical conditions other than spinal paralysis would cause you to have to use a catheter. Those commercials are on all day.

My aunt had a prolapsed bladder and had surgery. She wore a catheter for awhile.

When my grandfathers and my aunt laid dying (1 had colon cancer, 1 had non-lymphomia hodgkins, and the other we are not too sure, other than old age and giving up on life) they all had a catheters while at home (they all died at home). They were bed ridden.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:20 PM   #10
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So glad you asked that question because I've been wondering the same thing.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:26 PM   #11
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cause those women in the commercial all look healthy, well, and attractive. and young.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:28 PM   #12
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I still wanna know what medical conditions other than spinal paralysis would cause you to have to use a catheter. Those commercials are on all day.
A mllion ones.

Middle aged people that can walk around fine need catheters. Older people too.

AlZheimers

It really has little to do with paralysis
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cause those women in the commercial all look healthy, well, and attractive. and young.
My aunt was in her early 30's when she had a prolapsed bladder. She wore a catheter, yet still went about her daily life. Shopping, working, etc. You had no way of knowing she was wearing it had you not known about it!
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:59 PM   #14
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I wonder why the need to use them 3-6x a day, wouldn't you just leave a permanent cathetar in and just use a new one, once a day, leaving the one in all day. Does that make sense? I would hate to have to endure the insertion process more than once.
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Have you had a permanent catheter? I doubt it. Please, check with your PCP who will answer this question, or just google. Thousands of people need to be catheterized more than once a day.I don't feel like explaining why I needed this, so look it up.
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SMH, now is this Do it yourself?
"Hey Honey, time to stick it in, my catheter that is"
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Another who has wondered. I did google, but don't remember what I found. I've only had one once, and can't imagine doing that to myself or many times. I imagine though should I need to, I would do it.
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A mllion ones.

Middle aged people that can walk around fine need catheters. Older people too.

AlZheimers

It really has little to do with paralysis

I understand that. I just wonder what the conditions are as i had never heard of it till the commercials started coming on all the time. Makes it sound pretty common.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:22 PM   #19
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Mother used a catheter....she had Parkinson Disease. Her's was not changed every day....the doctor came to her house and changed it..I believe every third day but am not sure. She had to have a catheter for the last 5 years of her life.
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My uncle uses one and my friend's mom does as well. My uncle is in a nursing home and although he wears depends at night he uses a catheter so he doesn't have to wear the depends.

My friend's mom has one because she is at the end stage of her life and they had to measure how much she was going. Now that she is home she has one and doesn't have to wear a depend all the time.

Speaking of my friend's mom she has been home from the nursing home for around 3 weeks now or so. She isn't drinking or eating that much anymore and my friend tells me she has a short amount of time left. I guess once her organs start shutting down even more that will be the end. She has had Alzheimers for around decade now.
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I have never seen these commercials.
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I cleaned house for a woman with MS that had one. She was mainly wheelchair bound.
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I have never seen these commercials.
Just be happy...wish I were that ignorant...which is NOT to say yer in the least bit unschooled in the finer points o life.
Despise those " I found friends" commercials.
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I haven't seen the commercials either.
MS is another big reason, all kindsa bladder problems/after effects of surgeries/cancers can cause a person to need to catheterize themselves.
I've found it's mostly men that self cath vs indwelling cath.
There are some pretty amazing caths out there, silver tipped to be held in place better and prevent infections, some come in a type of packaging that makes even insertion a practically sterile procedure.
And my experience is that folks who either self cath or have indwellings that get changed monthly, are very resistant after awhile to getting infections from catheterizing unless they are very new to it.
I have a few pts that I change monthly, and while I use the best "sterile" procedure I can outside of a operating room, lets face it, there is just no such thing as sterile imo, and yet they never get infections.
But regular folks...say you are having some sort of operation for an acute something or other..if they cath you, you will most likely wind up with a UTI.
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